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General Discussion / A heart filled message I conti...
Last post by Dan M R-9148 - Feb 01, 2026, 03:00 PMSome insights to share with singles collectors about the club!
A message to set collectors about the CCA (yes, it's long... you know me)
Alright... I'm going to say something that's been on my mind for a while.
And yes, before anyone says it, I already know. This is going to be long. If you've read my posts before, you knew that before you even clicked the thread. So grab a coffee, scroll down, or just read the bold parts and pretend you read the whole thing.
Now that we got that out of the way...
I want to talk to the set collectors in the hobby. I'm saying this respectfully, and I'm not trying to stir anything up, but I also don't want to sugarcoat what's going on.
The ChipGuide issue is real, and I get why people are mad
A lot of set collectors have been frustrated lately, especially with the ChipGuide situation.
ChipGuide has always felt like one of those hobby resources that belongs to everybody. It's been the go-to reference for years. And now it feels like parts of it are being locked behind "advanced features" that require a CCA membership ($40/year).
Yes, parts of the site are still open to the public. But some of the messaging floating around makes it sound like the whole thing is locked unless you're a member. Whether that's the intent or not, that's how it comes across.
So I'm not here to act like set collectors are wrong for being annoyed. I understand it.
I also understand why many set collectors don't feel like CCA membership has obvious value right now. That's not an insult. It's just reality.
But here's where I think we need to zoom out and look at the bigger picture.
The CCA is still "the organization" of the hobby
Whether we like it or not, the CCA is still viewed as the main organization of the casino chip collecting hobby.
It's where the hobby has structure.
It's where the "official" voice is.
It's where the future direction is going to be shaped.
It's where new collectors eventually land when they want to see what the hobby is "about."
And right now, the CCA has basically been defined as a singles-focused place.
Not officially, maybe not intentionally, but in practice, that's how it feels to a lot of people.
A lot of set collectors look at it and think:
"That's not for us."
"That's a singles club."
"That's not my crowd."
And I'm going to say the quiet part out loud because we all know it's true.
Some set collectors see the CCA as a bunch of crabby old folks who hate set collecting and hate how we collect.
Now, I'm not saying that's fair to everyone in the CCA, because it's not. There are good people there. There are reasonable people there. There are helpful people there.
But the perception exists, and the perception matters.
Because if set collectors stay out, the CCA stays "singles-only" by default, and the divide gets worse.
The hobby is bigger than singles vs sets
Here's something that I think gets overlooked.
The VAST majority of collectors today are set collectors, or at least set-influenced collectors. Sets are a huge part of what brings people into the hobby.
But I also want to say this clearly, because it matters.
Singles collectors are not "failed set collectors" or "set collectors who never finished." Singles collecting is its own lane. A lot of collectors start with singles and stay singles-focused their entire collecting life. And that's totally valid. It takes real knowledge and skill, and it's a big part of the history side of the hobby.
That said, for many set collectors, sets become a gateway into deeper collecting.
You start building sets, and then you start noticing variations.
You start asking questions.
You start learning manufacturers.
You start learning casino timelines.
You start learning closures, rebrands, ownership changes.
You start learning why a chip exists and what came before it.
Before you know it, you aren't "just building sets."
You're learning casino history.
You're collecting singles.
You're chasing oddballs.
You're hunting the weird stuff.
You're reading about old casinos and old racks and old runs.
So this idea that set collectors are some separate species that doesn't care about history is honestly just wrong.
Set collecting is real collecting.
It's serious collecting.
And it often leads collectors into the deeper side of the hobby, whether they planned it or not.
Some of the comments about set collectors have been insulting
This is where I'm trying to be diplomatic, but I'm also not going to pretend it hasn't happened.
Some voices in the CCA world have pushed the idea that set collectors "don't really collect."
Some have acted like we're "just card players."
Some have basically implied we don't respect casino history or casino collectibles.
That is not only wrong, it's insulting.
And it's one of the reasons so many set collectors have just said "forget it" and stayed away from the CCA.
But here's the problem with staying away.
If we aren't there to represent ourselves, then other people will define us however they want.
And if we're being honest, some of those people don't understand what we do, and some of them don't even want to.
If we want the CCA to change, we have to show up
This is the main point of my post.
If set collectors want the CCA to be better, more welcoming, more modern, more active, more transparent, and more valuable, then we can't do that from the outside.
We can complain on PokerChipper.com and PCF (and believe me, we're good at that), but it doesn't change what the CCA becomes.
The only way set collectors have a real voice in the "official organization" of the hobby is to participate in it.
Join it.
Post on the boards.
Be visible.
Be active.
Be constructive.
Be consistent.
Not to start fights.
Not to take over.
Not to disrespect singles collectors.
Just to be part of the room where the hobby is being shaped.
Set collectors can help the CCA in a big way
I'm going to say this carefully.
I'm not saying set collectors are better than singles collectors. We aren't.
I'm not saying we run the hobby. We don't.
I'm not saying we should take anything over. We shouldn't.
But I do believe this.
Set collectors can help the CCA.
The CCA membership has been declining, and part of that is because it's been seen as a singles-only place. That is not healthy for the hobby.
If set collectors showed up in numbers, we could:
Bolster membership
Bring more daily activity to the boards
Bring more new collectors into the organization
Bring a more welcoming, social feel to the CCA
Help modernize the tone and culture over time
Make the CCA feel like it represents the whole hobby, not one slice of it
And we already know how to do this, because we already do it every day.
Look at PokerChipper.com and PCF.
We have daily interaction.
We have people helping each other constantly.
We have set threads.
We have variation threads.
We have chip IDs.
We have casino history discussions.
We have real hobby energy.
That's not fluff. That's the lifeblood of a hobby.
And I honestly think the CCA could use more of it.
My appeal (and yes I'm almost done)
If you are a set collector and you care about the hobby, consider joining the CCA and participating on the boards.
Even if you're skeptical.
Even if you're annoyed.
Even if you've had a bad experience.
Even if you don't feel welcome right now.
Because if we want the CCA to be better, we need to be part of making it better.
And if set collectors don't show up, then the CCA will continue being defined as "the singles place," and set collectors will continue being defined by other people who don't understand us.
The hobby doesn't need two camps.
It needs one community.
The CCA should be a place where set collectors and singles collectors can both say:
"Yeah, I belong here."
Dan Madrigrano
CCA #R-9148
A message to set collectors about the CCA (yes, it's long... you know me)
Alright... I'm going to say something that's been on my mind for a while.
And yes, before anyone says it, I already know. This is going to be long. If you've read my posts before, you knew that before you even clicked the thread. So grab a coffee, scroll down, or just read the bold parts and pretend you read the whole thing.
Now that we got that out of the way...
I want to talk to the set collectors in the hobby. I'm saying this respectfully, and I'm not trying to stir anything up, but I also don't want to sugarcoat what's going on.
The ChipGuide issue is real, and I get why people are mad
A lot of set collectors have been frustrated lately, especially with the ChipGuide situation.
ChipGuide has always felt like one of those hobby resources that belongs to everybody. It's been the go-to reference for years. And now it feels like parts of it are being locked behind "advanced features" that require a CCA membership ($40/year).
Yes, parts of the site are still open to the public. But some of the messaging floating around makes it sound like the whole thing is locked unless you're a member. Whether that's the intent or not, that's how it comes across.
So I'm not here to act like set collectors are wrong for being annoyed. I understand it.
I also understand why many set collectors don't feel like CCA membership has obvious value right now. That's not an insult. It's just reality.
But here's where I think we need to zoom out and look at the bigger picture.
The CCA is still "the organization" of the hobby
Whether we like it or not, the CCA is still viewed as the main organization of the casino chip collecting hobby.
It's where the hobby has structure.
It's where the "official" voice is.
It's where the future direction is going to be shaped.
It's where new collectors eventually land when they want to see what the hobby is "about."
And right now, the CCA has basically been defined as a singles-focused place.
Not officially, maybe not intentionally, but in practice, that's how it feels to a lot of people.
A lot of set collectors look at it and think:
"That's not for us."
"That's a singles club."
"That's not my crowd."
And I'm going to say the quiet part out loud because we all know it's true.
Some set collectors see the CCA as a bunch of crabby old folks who hate set collecting and hate how we collect.
Now, I'm not saying that's fair to everyone in the CCA, because it's not. There are good people there. There are reasonable people there. There are helpful people there.
But the perception exists, and the perception matters.
Because if set collectors stay out, the CCA stays "singles-only" by default, and the divide gets worse.
The hobby is bigger than singles vs sets
Here's something that I think gets overlooked.
The VAST majority of collectors today are set collectors, or at least set-influenced collectors. Sets are a huge part of what brings people into the hobby.
But I also want to say this clearly, because it matters.
Singles collectors are not "failed set collectors" or "set collectors who never finished." Singles collecting is its own lane. A lot of collectors start with singles and stay singles-focused their entire collecting life. And that's totally valid. It takes real knowledge and skill, and it's a big part of the history side of the hobby.
That said, for many set collectors, sets become a gateway into deeper collecting.
You start building sets, and then you start noticing variations.
You start asking questions.
You start learning manufacturers.
You start learning casino timelines.
You start learning closures, rebrands, ownership changes.
You start learning why a chip exists and what came before it.
Before you know it, you aren't "just building sets."
You're learning casino history.
You're collecting singles.
You're chasing oddballs.
You're hunting the weird stuff.
You're reading about old casinos and old racks and old runs.
So this idea that set collectors are some separate species that doesn't care about history is honestly just wrong.
Set collecting is real collecting.
It's serious collecting.
And it often leads collectors into the deeper side of the hobby, whether they planned it or not.
Some of the comments about set collectors have been insulting
This is where I'm trying to be diplomatic, but I'm also not going to pretend it hasn't happened.
Some voices in the CCA world have pushed the idea that set collectors "don't really collect."
Some have acted like we're "just card players."
Some have basically implied we don't respect casino history or casino collectibles.
That is not only wrong, it's insulting.
And it's one of the reasons so many set collectors have just said "forget it" and stayed away from the CCA.
But here's the problem with staying away.
If we aren't there to represent ourselves, then other people will define us however they want.
And if we're being honest, some of those people don't understand what we do, and some of them don't even want to.
If we want the CCA to change, we have to show up
This is the main point of my post.
If set collectors want the CCA to be better, more welcoming, more modern, more active, more transparent, and more valuable, then we can't do that from the outside.
We can complain on PokerChipper.com and PCF (and believe me, we're good at that), but it doesn't change what the CCA becomes.
The only way set collectors have a real voice in the "official organization" of the hobby is to participate in it.
Join it.
Post on the boards.
Be visible.
Be active.
Be constructive.
Be consistent.
Not to start fights.
Not to take over.
Not to disrespect singles collectors.
Just to be part of the room where the hobby is being shaped.
Set collectors can help the CCA in a big way
I'm going to say this carefully.
I'm not saying set collectors are better than singles collectors. We aren't.
I'm not saying we run the hobby. We don't.
I'm not saying we should take anything over. We shouldn't.
But I do believe this.
Set collectors can help the CCA.
The CCA membership has been declining, and part of that is because it's been seen as a singles-only place. That is not healthy for the hobby.
If set collectors showed up in numbers, we could:
Bolster membership
Bring more daily activity to the boards
Bring more new collectors into the organization
Bring a more welcoming, social feel to the CCA
Help modernize the tone and culture over time
Make the CCA feel like it represents the whole hobby, not one slice of it
And we already know how to do this, because we already do it every day.
Look at PokerChipper.com and PCF.
We have daily interaction.
We have people helping each other constantly.
We have set threads.
We have variation threads.
We have chip IDs.
We have casino history discussions.
We have real hobby energy.
That's not fluff. That's the lifeblood of a hobby.
And I honestly think the CCA could use more of it.
My appeal (and yes I'm almost done)
If you are a set collector and you care about the hobby, consider joining the CCA and participating on the boards.
Even if you're skeptical.
Even if you're annoyed.
Even if you've had a bad experience.
Even if you don't feel welcome right now.
Because if we want the CCA to be better, we need to be part of making it better.
And if set collectors don't show up, then the CCA will continue being defined as "the singles place," and set collectors will continue being defined by other people who don't understand us.
The hobby doesn't need two camps.
It needs one community.
The CCA should be a place where set collectors and singles collectors can both say:
"Yeah, I belong here."
Dan Madrigrano
CCA #R-9148
#12
Events / Re: Fall Issue - Expected Ship...
Last post by Steven Miller LM-1069-245 - Feb 01, 2026, 11:08 AMEarly September
#13
Events / Fall Issue - Expected Ship Dat...
Last post by Barry Sherwood R-9037 (admin) - Feb 01, 2026, 01:22 AMFall Issue - Expected Ship Date
#14
Events / Winter Issue - Articles and Ad...
Last post by Barry Sherwood R-9037 (admin) - Feb 01, 2026, 01:19 AMPlease submit all articles and ads for the Winter issue of the club magazine by this date. Send them to:
Steve Miller
editor@ccgtcc.com
Steve Miller
editor@ccgtcc.com
#15
Events / Winter Issue - Articles and Ad...
Last post by Barry Sherwood R-9037 (admin) - Feb 01, 2026, 01:18 AMPlease submit all articles and ads for the winter issue of the club magazine by this date. Send them to:
Steve Miller
editor@ccgtcc.com
Steve Miller
editor@ccgtcc.com
#16
Events / Fall Issue - Articles and Ads ...
Last post by Barry Sherwood R-9037 (admin) - Feb 01, 2026, 01:16 AMPlease submit all articles and ads for the Fall issue of the club magazine by this date. Send them to:
Steve Miller
editor@ccgtcc.com
Steve Miller
editor@ccgtcc.com
#17
Events / Summer Issue - Expected ship d...
Last post by Barry Sherwood R-9037 (admin) - Feb 01, 2026, 01:14 AMStart checking your mailbox for the Summer issue of the club magazine. Questions about the magazine? Email:
Steve Miller
editor@ccgtcc.com
Steve Miller
editor@ccgtcc.com
#18
Events / Summer Issue - Articles Due (d...
Last post by Barry Sherwood R-9037 (admin) - Feb 01, 2026, 01:10 AMPlease submit all articles and ads for the Summer issue of the club magazine by this date. Send them to:
Steve Miller
editor@ccgtcc.com
Steve Miller
editor@ccgtcc.com
#19
General Discussion / Re: Contest - Hard to Find Chi...
Last post by Dan M R-9148 - Jan 26, 2026, 03:38 PMTo clarify.... You want chip pictures of hard to find chips? What chips exactly do you need?
#20
General Discussion / Contest - Hard to Find Chips
Last post by Charles Kaplan LM-0115-048 - Jan 26, 2026, 12:58 PMThe next MoGH seminar is about using the ChipGuide search facilities to locate hard to find chips. I need your images of some chips that are already on the ChipGuide, or should be on the ChipGuide, and are difficult to locate. I will need several of them for the demonstration. Please email your chips to me directly, don't post them on this Board. If I use one of chips in the seminar, you will be rewarded with a free $5 casino chip.
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Museum of Gaming History - Next Seminar
Tuesday, February 24, 2026, 9:00pm EST
Topic: How to Find Chips on the ChipGuide
Speaker: Charles Kaplan
Description
Some chips are easy to find, the casino name and location are right on the chip.
But there are many chips that lack identification.
This seminar will demonstrate how to locate hard to find chips
on the ChipGuide using the ChipGuide's search features.
Register for Zoom Meeting: https://themogh.org/mogh.php?p=seminars&r=6