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#21
Identification Help / Re: Identify Chips
Last post by Barry Sherwood R-9037 (admin) - Oct 16, 2025, 11:42 AMHey! Welcome to the club! That's awesome.
Do me a favor and change your profile to make your display name be your real name and your membership number in this format:
"First Last R-####"
Once I confirm it with the membership officer, I'll update your permissions so you can have full access here.
I hope to see you at our Annual Convention at the South Point in Las Vegas June 18-20.
— Barry
Do me a favor and change your profile to make your display name be your real name and your membership number in this format:
"First Last R-####"
Once I confirm it with the membership officer, I'll update your permissions so you can have full access here.
I hope to see you at our Annual Convention at the South Point in Las Vegas June 18-20.
— Barry
#22
Identification Help / Re: Identify Chips
Last post by MCcHips - Oct 16, 2025, 06:32 AMThank you for the information. I will give it a try.
Yes - I am a member joined this week.
Yes - I am a member joined this week.
#23
Identification Help / Re: Identify Chips
Last post by Barry Sherwood R-9037 (admin) - Oct 15, 2025, 03:59 AMHi, and welcome to the CCA forums. There's a good article on how to clean chips here:
https://ccgtcc.com/education/cleaning.aspx
Take a look at that and see if you can avoid devaluation. I bought a collection of chips that were glued onto felt. When I removed the chips, I thought the backsides were goners, but I discovered that all I had to do was put them in water to loosen up the glue and with a little effort, they came clean pretty easily. I don't know if you'll have the same luck.
If you're a CCA member, let me know so I can update the permissions on your account here (there are other categories you'll have access to as a member that non-members can't see or post to). If you're not a member, details on how to join can be found here:
https://ccgtcc.com/membership
Thanks -- barry
https://ccgtcc.com/education/cleaning.aspx
Take a look at that and see if you can avoid devaluation. I bought a collection of chips that were glued onto felt. When I removed the chips, I thought the backsides were goners, but I discovered that all I had to do was put them in water to loosen up the glue and with a little effort, they came clean pretty easily. I don't know if you'll have the same luck.
If you're a CCA member, let me know so I can update the permissions on your account here (there are other categories you'll have access to as a member that non-members can't see or post to). If you're not a member, details on how to join can be found here:
https://ccgtcc.com/membership
Thanks -- barry
#24
Identification Help / Identify Chips
Last post by MCcHips - Oct 13, 2025, 11:49 AMHello,
I recently came across some old chips:
2 - Silver Palace Downtown Las Vegas .25
2 - Las Vegas Club .25.
2 - Horseshoe Club Las Vegas Nev .25.
2 - New Pioneer Club Downtown Las Vegas .25
Looking to get some information on them.
They were glued (you can see residue left on some of the chips) and framed how does this impact the value? Thanks in advance for any help with this.
I recently came across some old chips:
2 - Silver Palace Downtown Las Vegas .25
2 - Las Vegas Club .25.
2 - Horseshoe Club Las Vegas Nev .25.
2 - New Pioneer Club Downtown Las Vegas .25
Looking to get some information on them.
They were glued (you can see residue left on some of the chips) and framed how does this impact the value? Thanks in advance for any help with this.
#25
General Discussion / Re: CCA Board Meeting 10/13/25...
Last post by Bob Miksztal R-8909 - Oct 12, 2025, 04:02 PMLooking forward to seeing the whole crew over there and great thing that are happening for the club!
#26
General Discussion / Reminder!! CCA Board Meeting 1...
Last post by Barry Sherwood R-9037 (admin) - Oct 12, 2025, 01:22 PMJust a reminder about tomorrow's meeting. Hope to see you all there. Zoom login details in the original message of this thread. Note: Use the "One Tap Mobile" details to call in from a phone rather than using the zoom app. You won't have a way to ask to speak at the end using this method.
#27
General Discussion / Hey CCA members, have you hear...
Last post by Bob Miksztal R-8909 - Oct 05, 2025, 05:22 AMThe MEMBER news, that is! A new Member Newsletter was sent earlier this week.
Didn't get it? It means we don't have a good email for you.
Let fix that!
Send me an email with your name, member number (if known) and your good email address. We'll fix it in our records and send you the latest news.
Sent to me at: greatoz99@yahoo.com
- Bob
Didn't get it? It means we don't have a good email for you.
Let fix that!
Send me an email with your name, member number (if known) and your good email address. We'll fix it in our records and send you the latest news.
Sent to me at: greatoz99@yahoo.com
- Bob
#28
History of... / Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Albuq...
Last post by 66relics - Sep 25, 2025, 03:02 PMI'm posting a write-up of the backstory of a Hard Rock Casino marquee I recently acquired and am currently restoring:
The Story of the Sign: A Unique Chapter in Tribal Gaming and Rock & Roll Branding
The circa 30-foot "Hard Rock" marquee sign is not merely a piece of commercial branding; it is the primary physical artifact from a distinct and historically significant chapter in the chronicles of both tribal gaming and the iconic Hard Rock brand. Its value is intrinsically linked to the compelling narrative of the Pueblo of Isleta's ambitious, yet short-lived, partnership with Hard Rock from 2010 to 2013. This section details the sign's provenance, establishing it as a rare relic of a calculated business venture, a cultural reawakening, and a unique offshoot of the Hard Rock empire.
The Hard Rock Gamble: A Calculated Risk in a Competitive Market
In the late 2000s, the Pueblo of Isleta, a sovereign tribal nation located south of Albuquerque, New Mexico, sought to elevate its established gaming enterprise in a fiercely competitive regional market. The tribe had successfully operated the Isleta Casino & Resort for over two decades, and in July 2008, it opened a new $100 million hotel and resort complex. To capitalize on this investment and differentiate itself, the Pueblo entered into a franchise agreement to rebrand the property as the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Albuquerque.
This strategic decision was the culmination of a four-year negotiation process, signaling a deliberate and carefully considered move to leverage a globally recognized brand name. The explicit goal was to gain a "significant advantage in the competitive Albuquerque market" by transforming the property into a premier destination. The tribe and its partners anticipated that the Hard Rock name would attract a new demographic of visitors, including convention attendees and tourists uninterested in gaming but drawn to the brand's signature rock and roll atmosphere, premier entertainment, and extensive collection of music memorabilia. The rebranding was substantial, involving a multi-million dollar property improvement plan to align with Hard Rock's high standards, which included the installation of memorabilia valued at $2 million. The operational model was based on the successful Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Tulsa, a property operated by the Cherokee Nation that had reported a 30% increase in gaming revenues after its own rebranding.
A crucial detail that defines the rarity of this sign lies in the specific nature of the franchise agreement. The Pueblo of Isleta's partnership was not with the globally dominant Hard Rock International, which was acquired by the Seminole Tribe of Florida in 2007. Instead, the license was granted by Hard Rock Hotel Holdings, LLC, a separate Las Vegas-based entity. This entity controlled the Hard Rock Hotel brand rights for territories west of the Mississippi River—a legacy of a corporate division wherein Hard Rock Cafe co-founder Peter Morton retained these specific naming rights after selling the main brand. This makes the Albuquerque sign a relic from a distinct, parallel, and now-defunct branch of the Hard Rock brand's corporate history. The franchisor itself faced financial instability during this period; in March 2011, its flagship Las Vegas property was surrendered by its operator to a partner due to high debt, which lends context to the subsequent claims of unfulfilled contractual promises made to the Isleta Pueblo.
A Brand Identity Mismatch: The Dissolution of a Partnership
Despite the high expectations, the partnership between the Isleta Pueblo and the Hard Rock brand was dissolved after only three years. The decision to de-brand and revert to the original Isleta name was driven by a combination of financial underperformance, contractual disputes, and a fundamental cultural disconnect.
The primary motivation was financial. The rebranding failed to deliver the anticipated surge in revenue. Pamela Gallegos, the Chief Executive Officer of the Isleta enterprise, stated publicly, "We did not see the boost that I think we would have loved to have seen," and confirmed that slot revenues were "about the same" as they were before the name change. This lack of return on investment was exacerbated by the substantial $1 million annual licensing fee the tribe was paying to use the Hard Rock name.
Beyond the financial disappointment, Pueblo officials reported that the franchise owner did not fulfill its contractual obligations to provide essential marketing support, management training, and other services. This failure to deliver on promised support likely contributed to the property's inability to fully leverage the brand and attract the new clientele it had hoped for.
Perhaps the most compelling factor in the decision was the realization that the casino's core customer base did not connect with the new brand. As CEO Gallegos explained, "After nearly three years as Hard Rock, we learned that our guests preferred and identified more with the Isleta brand". The move to reclaim the Isleta name was strategically framed as a return to the Pueblo's roots, heritage, and culture, which held a stronger and more authentic connection with the local community and its loyal patrons. The de-branding process was a significant undertaking, involving the systematic removal of all Hard Rock branding, including the iconic oversized guitar sculpture and the main entrance sign that is the subject of this report. On July 12, 2013, the property held a grand reopening as the Isleta Resort & Casino, an event that celebrated a new "modern Native American-style" design and showcased priceless Native American artwork throughout the facility.
An Artifact of a Moment in Time
The Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Albuquerque marquee sign is the most prominent surviving artifact of this unique and well-documented business venture. It is a tangible piece of corporate and cultural history, representing the intersection of a global entertainment brand and a sovereign tribal nation's journey of self-determination in the modern gaming industry. The sign embodies a high-stakes bet on the power of a world-famous name, which ultimately proved unable to supplant a deeply rooted local and cultural identity. Its story is not one of simple closure, but of a strategic pivot and a reclamation of heritage, making it a far more compelling and valuable collectible.
Here is a photo of the entire marquee; I have the "Hard Rock" component.
The Story of the Sign: A Unique Chapter in Tribal Gaming and Rock & Roll Branding
The circa 30-foot "Hard Rock" marquee sign is not merely a piece of commercial branding; it is the primary physical artifact from a distinct and historically significant chapter in the chronicles of both tribal gaming and the iconic Hard Rock brand. Its value is intrinsically linked to the compelling narrative of the Pueblo of Isleta's ambitious, yet short-lived, partnership with Hard Rock from 2010 to 2013. This section details the sign's provenance, establishing it as a rare relic of a calculated business venture, a cultural reawakening, and a unique offshoot of the Hard Rock empire.
The Hard Rock Gamble: A Calculated Risk in a Competitive Market
In the late 2000s, the Pueblo of Isleta, a sovereign tribal nation located south of Albuquerque, New Mexico, sought to elevate its established gaming enterprise in a fiercely competitive regional market. The tribe had successfully operated the Isleta Casino & Resort for over two decades, and in July 2008, it opened a new $100 million hotel and resort complex. To capitalize on this investment and differentiate itself, the Pueblo entered into a franchise agreement to rebrand the property as the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Albuquerque.
This strategic decision was the culmination of a four-year negotiation process, signaling a deliberate and carefully considered move to leverage a globally recognized brand name. The explicit goal was to gain a "significant advantage in the competitive Albuquerque market" by transforming the property into a premier destination. The tribe and its partners anticipated that the Hard Rock name would attract a new demographic of visitors, including convention attendees and tourists uninterested in gaming but drawn to the brand's signature rock and roll atmosphere, premier entertainment, and extensive collection of music memorabilia. The rebranding was substantial, involving a multi-million dollar property improvement plan to align with Hard Rock's high standards, which included the installation of memorabilia valued at $2 million. The operational model was based on the successful Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Tulsa, a property operated by the Cherokee Nation that had reported a 30% increase in gaming revenues after its own rebranding.
A crucial detail that defines the rarity of this sign lies in the specific nature of the franchise agreement. The Pueblo of Isleta's partnership was not with the globally dominant Hard Rock International, which was acquired by the Seminole Tribe of Florida in 2007. Instead, the license was granted by Hard Rock Hotel Holdings, LLC, a separate Las Vegas-based entity. This entity controlled the Hard Rock Hotel brand rights for territories west of the Mississippi River—a legacy of a corporate division wherein Hard Rock Cafe co-founder Peter Morton retained these specific naming rights after selling the main brand. This makes the Albuquerque sign a relic from a distinct, parallel, and now-defunct branch of the Hard Rock brand's corporate history. The franchisor itself faced financial instability during this period; in March 2011, its flagship Las Vegas property was surrendered by its operator to a partner due to high debt, which lends context to the subsequent claims of unfulfilled contractual promises made to the Isleta Pueblo.
A Brand Identity Mismatch: The Dissolution of a Partnership
Despite the high expectations, the partnership between the Isleta Pueblo and the Hard Rock brand was dissolved after only three years. The decision to de-brand and revert to the original Isleta name was driven by a combination of financial underperformance, contractual disputes, and a fundamental cultural disconnect.
The primary motivation was financial. The rebranding failed to deliver the anticipated surge in revenue. Pamela Gallegos, the Chief Executive Officer of the Isleta enterprise, stated publicly, "We did not see the boost that I think we would have loved to have seen," and confirmed that slot revenues were "about the same" as they were before the name change. This lack of return on investment was exacerbated by the substantial $1 million annual licensing fee the tribe was paying to use the Hard Rock name.
Beyond the financial disappointment, Pueblo officials reported that the franchise owner did not fulfill its contractual obligations to provide essential marketing support, management training, and other services. This failure to deliver on promised support likely contributed to the property's inability to fully leverage the brand and attract the new clientele it had hoped for.
Perhaps the most compelling factor in the decision was the realization that the casino's core customer base did not connect with the new brand. As CEO Gallegos explained, "After nearly three years as Hard Rock, we learned that our guests preferred and identified more with the Isleta brand". The move to reclaim the Isleta name was strategically framed as a return to the Pueblo's roots, heritage, and culture, which held a stronger and more authentic connection with the local community and its loyal patrons. The de-branding process was a significant undertaking, involving the systematic removal of all Hard Rock branding, including the iconic oversized guitar sculpture and the main entrance sign that is the subject of this report. On July 12, 2013, the property held a grand reopening as the Isleta Resort & Casino, an event that celebrated a new "modern Native American-style" design and showcased priceless Native American artwork throughout the facility.
An Artifact of a Moment in Time
The Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Albuquerque marquee sign is the most prominent surviving artifact of this unique and well-documented business venture. It is a tangible piece of corporate and cultural history, representing the intersection of a global entertainment brand and a sovereign tribal nation's journey of self-determination in the modern gaming industry. The sign embodies a high-stakes bet on the power of a world-famous name, which ultimately proved unable to supplant a deeply rooted local and cultural identity. Its story is not one of simple closure, but of a strategic pivot and a reclamation of heritage, making it a far more compelling and valuable collectible.
Here is a photo of the entire marquee; I have the "Hard Rock" component.
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#29
General Discussion / ChipGuide help live - Friday 8...
Last post by Bob Miksztal R-8909 - Sep 18, 2025, 05:05 PMCharles and I will be hosting a live online working session tomorrow night at 8 pm EST for anyone who is still running into issues with being able to log into the ChipGuide.
Sometimes it's easier to talk, share screens, check databases, do resets, etc in real time than to do posts and emails exchanges.
If you are interested in attending, please send me an email at greatoz99@yahoo.com and I will send you a link to the online meeting.
When you send me the note please make sure to include your full name, the email address you signed up for you membership with and you membership number.
You must send me an email, I will not be responding to requests here.
We have to cap this at 1 hour. If we have time we may be able to help people who have issues with seeing images, but login issues are the priority.
Thanks,
- Bob
Sometimes it's easier to talk, share screens, check databases, do resets, etc in real time than to do posts and emails exchanges.
If you are interested in attending, please send me an email at greatoz99@yahoo.com and I will send you a link to the online meeting.
When you send me the note please make sure to include your full name, the email address you signed up for you membership with and you membership number.
You must send me an email, I will not be responding to requests here.
We have to cap this at 1 hour. If we have time we may be able to help people who have issues with seeing images, but login issues are the priority.
Thanks,
- Bob
#30
General Discussion / Hello West Cost Chippers
Last post by Tom Hertel LM-1932 - Sep 07, 2025, 04:51 PMHello West Cost Chippers. Now that we are down to only one chip show a year, CT Coins has decided to have chip at all of our live shows. Please see our show calendar at ctcoins.net
We will have a small amount on hand. If you are looking for supplies send us an email and we will have it waiting for you at the show chips too. Hope this helps to promote chips.
We will have a small amount on hand. If you are looking for supplies send us an email and we will have it waiting for you at the show chips too. Hope this helps to promote chips.